[quote="kremsy"][quote="hadix"][quote="arn22433"]We played against them last week and yesterday twice. Of course they're lagging a bit but i had 80 snapshot (and 60 snap during orange's attack). Don't tell me you can't play with 80 snapshot.[/quote]
I had 110 snap when they were in defense. For me it is impossible to play with that snapshot, becouse i feel like hitbox is in diffrent place. It's sad that EU needs to play against NA online. The fact is that they know how to play with lags, we don't know. I think they can play fun cups etc., but not cup with prize money and also qualification for the CPS. We really lost motivation after this match...[/quote]

These guys had a Ping between 90 and 130 yesterday, hadzik you should not complain, your pings are sometimes even worse...

I played myself yesterday during the Cup against these Guys, ofc it is not 100% smooth, only 99% but still, for them its worse as well and there is no reason to really forbid them as Paragon is a friendly Community and open for all!

Also check out the first topic, ericsn has said everything there, and meanwhile the Snaps are way better, and 80 snap against them isnt that bad.[/quote]

When we played vs them yesterday the snap jump sometimes to 170 and we got lags cz of them thats not fair at all exspecially not if we loose Money cz of this

[quote="kremsy"][quote="hadix"][quote="arn22433"]We played against them last week and yesterday twice. Of course they're lagging a bit but i had 80 snapshot (and 60 snap during orange's attack). Don't tell me you can't play with 80 snapshot.[/quote]
I had 110 snap when they were in defense. For me it is impossible to play with that snapshot, becouse i feel like hitbox is in diffrent place. It's sad that EU needs to play against NA online. The fact is that they know how to play with lags, we don't know. I think they can play fun cups etc., but not cup with prize money and also qualification for the CPS. We really lost motivation after this match...[/quote]

These guys had a Ping between 90 and 130 yesterday, hadzik you should not complain, your pings are sometimes even worse...

I played myself yesterday during the Cup against these Guys, ofc it is not 100% smooth, only 99% but still, for them its worse as well and there is no reason to really forbid them as Paragon is a friendly Community and open for all!

Also check out the first topic, ericsn has said everything there, and meanwhile the Snaps are way better, and 80 snap against them isnt that bad.[/quote]
pls, when I have high ping I just can't play, but those guys know how to play with lags, becouse they play with lags all the time... It is fucking no fair... You should allow playing with diffrent hitbox then....

[quote="hadix"][quote="arn22433"]We played against them last week and yesterday twice. Of course they're lagging a bit but i had 80 snapshot (and 60 snap during orange's attack). Don't tell me you can't play with 80 snapshot.[/quote]
I had 110 snap when they were in defense. For me it is impossible to play with that snapshot, becouse i feel like hitbox is in diffrent place. It's sad that EU needs to play against NA online. The fact is that they know how to play with lags, we don't know. I think they can play fun cups etc., but not cup with prize money and also qualification for the CPS. We really lost motivation after this match...[/quote]

These guys had a Ping between 90 and 130 yesterday, hadzik you should not complain, your pings are sometimes even worse...

I played myself yesterday during the Cup against these Guys, ofc it is not 100% smooth, only 99% but still, for them its worse as well and there is no reason to really forbid them as Paragon is a friendly Community and open for all!

Also check out the first topic, ericsn has said everything there, and meanwhile the Snaps are way better, and 80 snap against them isnt that bad.

[quote="arn22433"]We played against them last week and yesterday twice. Of course they're lagging a bit but i had 80 snapshot (and 60 snap during orange's attack). Don't tell me you can't play with 80 snapshot.[/quote]
I had 110 snap when they were in defense. For me it is impossible to play with that snapshot, becouse i feel like hitbox is in diffrent place. It's sad that EU needs to play against NA online. The fact is that they know how to play with lags, we don't know. I think they can play fun cups etc., but not cup with prize money and also qualification for the CPS. We really lost motivation after this match...

snap>skill

We played against them last week and yesterday twice. Of course they're lagging a bit but i had 80 snapshot (and 60 snap during orange's attack). Don't tell me you can't play with 80 snapshot.

AGAIN..........................................

I would like to say that eventho its not a cup with any prizes it should be played seriously.
If you want to have fun and dont care about the ping, then go play on a public server. You might find this rude... but my words contain no hate, only logic.

Now that being said I would like to add that the internet and FPS-games arent made for inter-continental gaming due to the limitations of signal speed. Also, I would like to see what would happen if it was the other way round... SM really active in the US and EU teams would join your cups. How would people behave then? Exactly the same imo.

Show me other FPS-games where people from the US play vs the EU...
These are simple facts.

Personally I dont like playing vs US teams, but I admit that it must be harder for them then for us. If I were admin I wouldnt allow the US-teams... but it's not my call.


PS : ShootMania & SNAP ... makes it worse imo than it already is.

At the moment it sadly looks like anyway that no american Teams are participating in our cups anymore, especially due the hate what some People started against them.

I must agree on most of these. It is indeed a cup without a prize, so it is mainly meant to have fun and to practice.
Practicing on a high ping is not the best, but that doesn't mean that the NA team isn't allowed to play? They play with even worse pings than most of us in EU do.
I've seen alot of teams/players raging already in-game while I was streaming a game from a NA team vs EU team, and i have to say, for as far as i could see it, it was possible to play with decent snap and ping for EU players.

So i don't see any reason to not let the NA teams play in the Paragon League. If each team could accept it that the ping and snap will be higher as soon as you play against one of those teams than there would be no problem. Or at least stop the flaming about ping etc.

And that might be an idea for the future to make some NA paragon league cups too ^-^
That would definatly fix all the 'rage' problems about pings and snaps.