I know two big glitches in chevaliar, need to be fixed please...

From everything that has been announced it is implied that only newly created maps were ok. If you knew that old maps were ok you would've written it somewhere so I think this is just an after construction on your part.

I mean, the map criteria was "Use format MC - Name in your map and upload to mania exchange". So you wanted people to think: "Oh, I can change name on a map that isn't mine and just reupload it to mania exchange under my name!". If it was the case of a misunderstanding/change of information from Nadeo you can say that, but don't come with this bs explanation.

The period of map submission was too short, the announce has no visibility (only on english, only here) Lot of people knows nothing about world cup and map submission.

I think it's not too late to allowed others submission, extend the period of test, and retard the qualifier.

You need to do something, because maybe 60% of players is sad about the new mappack.

It's time to listen players like Alinoa does.

EDIT : I see rust, versace and valley of damned is add to the poll, it's a very good news thanks !

That's a very good news my god I don't believe in ! I think I will create a new post for players can choose old map to add at the mappack !

Hi all,

We had proposed to have a new mappack for this competition. However we didn't specify that you can use maps already created to have some new maps and older ones already tested and approved as competitive ones as well.
So you can make a mappack including old maps.

kind regards,
Alinoa

Okay 1st: about that i didn't take part of the new mappack, I wasn't agree to change the mappack so i'll get involved with something i'm not agree with, exept if I have no other choice, and it suppose to be something clear (about mappack i mean) but when u saw how complicated the maps are to try to get them good then I prefer let the ppl see their own mistake than try to tell them, because if they don't understand my view they will just get blocked into their own mind and mistakes.
2nd: OF COURSE their is position, of course u can take the little pillar placed on no-where and kill the attackers by a mistake, but when i said "their is no position" i meant that the positions proposed don't give a good potential of teamplay, preshots, pings and all what this game need in defense. Guess why rust was the most played map in cups, because it gives all of this "clearly". Then what u didn't answer Hype (volontary or not) A description of the maps would have been better to give good opinions about if the vision of the mappers was clear or not, good or not. Maybe also for that i didn't get involved for the mapping because it was to random for me to understand the view of the mappers. Also it's the mappers who've to come to the players to have their opinions and not the contrary.
3rd: I'll just let you refer about what Darkii said, and you contradict me about something you wasn't sure. Good kind of contradiction i would say...
Last thing when you answer to someone try to not take at the letter about what someone said but to understand all his mind. Not picking some sentences and try to give you right if you don't understand all the thinking about what someone say.

If nadeo was the reason behind having a new mappack then they must really be trying hard to kill off the game. I honestly don't see why having new maps would benefit them especially when these new maps are no where near the level of the current/old maps. You say it was possible to have remakes of the old maps however the old maps don't need remaking any more than they already have been, so why bother to remake them?

Hype you can say that the map makers where thinking about the maps very hard ect blah blah blah but that doesn't mean that they have been thinking about it correctly and from the correct view point, being that of a good player. The positions are randomly placed, often very open and with no ability to rotate. If you get pushed at a position and have to fall back well then you have nowhere to go, you are stuck in the open. You say that you had no problem trying to find positions but is that positions which are viable against good players or just anyone? Because i found to have a proper defense setup in which you could support teammates was almost impossible to find on most maps because one or two of the positions where easily easily able to be picked off and these positions offered no chance to rotate. The attacker can simply sit and pole and just wait till someone rotates. I remember seeing one of the map makers say that their map was too difficult to attack on yet from my perspective it was one of the easiest to attack on and that is coming from me.

All these maps feel rushed and with little thought put into them with relation to high level gameplay. None of the maps are up to the standard of the current/old maps and the only map which is somewhat playable is Hypno5e but even then i would rather play castelito. Heck i'm starting to miss the dreammy remakes of maps because even those were at a higher standard than this.

And btw hype cs is no different when it comes to map making, a good map has the exact same characteristics as a good map in shootmania.
Decent Positions which can assist each other, ability to rotate without standing in the open, objects which enable movement possibilities as appose to hinder them ect ect. CS does have a map editor and there are loads of community made maps and although it's not to the same extent as shootmania every now and then there is a "operation" which provides another mappack full of community made maps which have the potential to become official.

Okay, so about those maps here come my words and they will be rude. This map pool sucks and i'm serious, just one thing if we would ask to the player who have done them and ask them how we're suppose to play it (in defence i mean) they will not be able to answer, if they're then what would have been smart to do is put a description about this cause right now 2/3 of the maps got no "positions" at all. Then what is funny is most ppl who've made the maps didn't play elite as competitive way and don't understand how the game "work" especialy in defense cause right now the maps are for attackers and not the defense. Other thing interesting with this map pool is again 2/3 of the maps can be "glitched", I mean some maps are open of the tops of the maps witch is a really...really bad things cause all the defenders are opens without any brain possible. As my thought it would have been a great idea to put a description about the maps on how they works (in defence) it's maybe "too much" give for the players but the "work" about pre-shots, rotation, aggro and others are enough difficult to not ask them to try to find "viable" positions. Also it look like the mappers just put some random stuff anywhere on the maps without any single thoughts about how their map gonna work and it's insanely dumb. Just take a look on karma maps to see how ppl react on it, 90% and maybe more are under 50% so i'm want to see how the "World Cup" will goes with 1 month of train on the final mappack. Just take a look on CS, they kept all their old best maps because it can give a good show to the audience, with new one it will give only random stuff, no bigs moves, nothing spectacular. SO do u expect something good to watch or boring cause with this kind of choices it's really questionable. Other point if it was to "break" all the differences between low-tiers team and top-tiers ones, just look at the results of your own cups between "good" and "bad" teams and you will see that the difference is higher than the old maps. Maybe the game need somethings new but it need to do it "softly" and not completly ruin what was a one (maybe the only) "good" thing on this game: the maps. Once again and i think it come from A LOT of players of the community, thanks to ruin the game by giving one of the most important things on a FPS game (THE MAPS) to people who don't have any idea on how the game works. Paragon your decisions and logic are really questionable and u should seriously think about what is good to give another live to this game.